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God and the Existence of Extraterrestrials

God and the Existence of Extraterrestrials   

    

We often see in the media news related to the appearance of UFOs or signs supposed to come from other planets, with interesting messages or, at least, fun, as for example shows the video below related: The face of Jesus in Crop Circles 2010, by Fernando Correa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5jCqArLc5c Because of this, Iesus Christus interviewed Rev. Fr. Jesus Maria Mestre, professor of Spirituality and Sacred Scripture at the International Seminar Ms. Corredentora (FSSPX) of Argentina on the issue to illustrate the souls too and curiously frivolous.

Published in issue number 117 “Iesus Chrisus” Magazine

“Iesus Chrisus” Magazine: Reverend Father, some weeks ago the diretor of the Vatican astronomical observatory, the argentine priest José Gabriel Funes, SJ., has declared in one interview that the idea of extraterrestrial life have nothing strange about it. What you think of those declarations?

Fr. José Maria Mestre Roc: What was published by the Zenit News agency last 16 may, which made echo in all media.

Iesus Chrisus” Magazine: Could you resume us the view point of Fr. Funes

Fr. José Maria Mestre Roc: Of course. According to him, could exist another living beings other than the ones know. If we didnt concede this possibility we would be limiting God creative capability.

Appealing soon to St. Francis of Assisi, which everyone knows spoke of brother sun and sister moon, the question arises: why couldnt we speak of brother extraterrestrial?

To support his point of view, he resorts to the image of the Good Shepherd, who goes after the lost sheep: “in this universe there could be a hundred sheep” – I am Reading what declared Zenit – “which corresponds to the diverses forms of creatures. We, who belongs to the human race, could be precisely the lost sheep, the sinners who need a Pastor”

Lastly, Seeing that here arises an problem with the redemption operated by Our Lord Jesus Christ, complements that although there were other inteligente beings, this does not mean that they need to be redeemed like the men, since they could have remained in full friendship with their Creator.

Magazine: Well, not admitting to extraterrestrial life, it really implies - as the Father Funes - restrict God's freedom to create as many beings as He wanted?

R. P. Mestre: Not at all. It is true that God is infinitely free in creating and to create; but it is no less certain that God has made known to us the purpose which he do it. That is revelation itself. It is not, therefore, that denying extraterrestrial life we came to coerce the freedom of God, but to abide by what He Himself has told us.

MAGAZINE: In any case, Father, how to reconcile the possibility that there is extraterrestrial life with the redemption of Our Lord Jesus Christ? It would be the extraterrestrials imaculate beings, in the sense that they would not need it?

R. P. Mestre: Because here we enter the of the pure hypothesis, nothing more, and what can say of a hypothesis, it is not a affirmation, but another hypothesis or, in other words, a conditional statement, This is why he employs a potential time, the conditional mode, indicating that if they exist, this did not imply that they would need to be redeemed since "they could have remained in full friendship with his Creator. " However, if they had sinned, " would have the possibility of enjoying the mercy of God, as we".

Magazine: In another part of his interview, Father Funes tries to indirectly sustain his opinion, arguing that there is no contradiction between faith and what science; that is, that there is no reason to oppose the conclusions of science with ...

R. P. Mestre: ... yes, with the revealed by God. But the point is not that. There is no contradiction between faith and reason, of course. The theme is that the science has been really proving now that there are no extraterrestrial beings... It is important to emphasize this: besides all the lucubrations, the scientists are obliged to recognize that, despite all the antennas and telescopes that have pointed to the space to receive signs of life intelligent on other planets or galaxies, to this day they have received nothing. The space is absolutely mute. This is the proof... Without the intention of generating false illusions in people and inducing them to misunderstand, More than saying that the Science isnt in contradiction with the faith it must be said that Science - which adheres to the proofs - has been able to demonstrate, whether willing or not, that there is nothing outside us ...

Magazine: So you're a skeptic?

R. P. Mestre:  I believe that we have to situate ourselves in a realisticpoint of view and common sense, and not fall into fiction. In a novel one can speak of "our Brothers extraterrestrials, "just as St. Francis spoke of the" sun brother "or" moon sister. " Here we speak in a proper way. Here we talk about science. In this context, suppositions like those of this kind simply imply falling into a theological fiction. Well, the theology is not about fictions, but about realities.

 The case, therefore, is that starting from what God himself told us in the revelation, and proceeding not by closed arguments of Scripture or Tradition, but by the arguments of theological analogy, we have to rule out the existence of intelligent aliens as being irreconcilable with the right theological data.

Yet, before we would have to define well what is meant by “extraterrestrial beings” because in the broad sense the angels, good or bad, are also “extraterrestrial beings.

Father funes does not refer to them but to intelligent creatures, similar to men, that is, composed of body and soul, and living on some other planet. To these same ones I also refer here.

Magazine : Nowadays, besides the novel and the fiction, there are many who believe in the existence of extraterrestrial beings, even among Catholics. What arguments have to be invoked to deny this possibility?

R. P. Mestre: The arguments can be of two classes, philosophical and theological.

 Magazine: Since ours is a religious publication, and the one who referred to the theme is a priest, explain us better the theological argument.

R. P. Mestre: All right. For this we will use the analogy. If there are other intellectual beings, we would have to say that they should have been raised necessarily to the supernatural order, and this for reasons of harmony with the revelation.

St. Thomas clearly states that angels were created in a state of grace, and that men were also, for the same reason as those, namely, because they were to be created in perfect state, that is, including in some way all that they would come later; and thus both angels and men, since they were foreordained to glory, must have already from their creation a seed of the same glory which is Grace.

Well, about these other beings existing, God would have acted upon them just as He did with angels and men: if He made them capable of knowing and loving Him - with intelligence and will, as He did with angels and men - also foreordained them to glory. Nothing indicates, theologically speaking, that he would have acted with the aliens differently than with angels and men.... Now the "extraterrestrials" have been elevated to the supernatural state, as has been explained, of the two, one: or remained faithful to their original justice , or sinned, like angels and men.

MAGAZINE: Is this the "Gordian knot"?

R. P. Mestre: Let's say yes. Because if they were faithful, and as Father Funes says "they remained in full friendship with their Creator ... not needing redemption", there are several drawbacks. 

MAGAZINE: Which ones and why?

 R. P. Mestre: Because it is part of the revealed data that men know who is part of the Church, whether militant, purgative or triumphant. We know that the Church militant is formed by those who have received baptism, profess true faith and submit to the authorities established by Christ; the infidels, heretics and schismatics are excluded. We also know that the triumphant Church is composed of angels and men.

If there had been extraterrestrials, we would have to know it, because one day they would be our companions in heaven, and God would have to have let us know. If we know that we will have angels as companions, whom we can not see, how could we not know that they too would be the "Venusians," "Martians," or "Jupterians," with whom we might be contacted one day?

MAGAZINE: It's no small thing as a fortiori ...

 R. P. Mestre: But that's not all. There’s more. If we suppose for a moment that God would not reveal to us that we would one day have extraterrestrials as companions in Heaven, it would happen that they, the Martians, would have to profess a rather strange creed ...

 MAGAZINE: How's that?

 R. P. Mestre: Logical consequence. It is a dogma of faith that no one can be saved unless he has faith in a single, triune God, and moreover in the redemptive Incarnation. About the latter weighs the argument.

These Martians would believe without difficulty in the dogma of God One and in the dogma of the Trinity, but the dogma of the Incarnation, which would not affect them at all, would make their "Credo" somewhat curious: "I believe in Jesus Christ, who became man What is this?) on the planet Earth (where is it?) To redeem them from your sin (and what I have with it?) and take them to heaven; and who sent them the Holy Spirit, who spoke to them through the prophets and the scriptures, and promises to raise them up at the end of time ... ", etc., etc.

In a word, all the faith they should believe to save themselves ... would refer to us, not to them! The least you could say is that such a thing is extremely ridiculous and inconvenient.

MAGAZINE: And what if, instead of remaining faithful, they had sinned?

 R. P. Mestre: There are also serious drawbacks. Why, if God called them to heaven and were unfaithful and sinned - which would be most likely, for not only men but also angels (the bad ones) fell - then they can not enter into glory unless they were first redeemed ...

And this redemption, or they did not have it, and then they would be hopelessly condemned - something difficult to reconcile with the teaching of Christ, the Good Shepherd who, if he sees one of his sheep in danger, leaves the other ninety-nine in a safe place and goes after the one lost or if they had it, and also their "Credo" would be very strange again.

Because Christ can only die once, and once resurrected he can no longer die. For then they would have been redeemed with us, without counting on a "proper" redemption, and should pray: "I believe in Jesus Christ, who redeemed me, Venusian, becoming man (what is" man "to an alien? planet Earth, from the solar system of the galaxy Milky Way, and who died there for me on a cross, and there instituted the priesthood that sanctifies me (who are these priests who sanctify me?) and the sacraments of baptism, confirmation, extreme unction, Eucharisty (which only men can administer, the angels can not do it, and for the same reason, not the Martians, to whom Christ has not conferred the priesthood), and sent them the Holy Spirit (and I somehow I take advantage of it) ... "

MAGAZINE: Sorry, Father, but that goes beyond the limit of the credible ... It's a strange "Credo" the "Martian Creed" ...

 R. P. Mestre: And yet it is true. And so. Admitted or supposed to be something, there follow a series of consequences, moreover, of theological implications, which are completely undeniable, no matter how extravagant they seem ...

 MAGAZINE: It seems easier, then, to deny that there are extraterrestrials ...

 R. P. MASTER: Regardless of the point of view, such a possibility is really impossible. It can not be said that whoever says it is a heretic. However, it must be emphasized that there is no basis for accepting it, neither in revelation nor in natural creation, and that on the other hand, it brings many inconveniences from a philosophical and theological point of view.

 Magazine: At this point, Reverend Father, the possibility of extraterrestrial life, more than fiction, seems a real absurdity.

 R. P. Mestre: I do not know if absurd, but it is that it is irreconcilable with what we know by revelation. There are more, many more questions that open and leave insoluble, than the solutions that brings to any question about it.

Let us think of what Saint Paul teaches. The Apostle teaches that Christ, the Word made man, is the center of Creation, the synthesis of all of it, the end for which all - all - was created; that it is God's will "to restore all in Christ," both the angelic and the human world. It is then asked: How would this restoration of everything in Christ in the Venusian world, Martian or extraterrestrial? How would they be ordained to Christ? What is the meaning of the existence of other intellectual beings distinct from man, if the end of creation is achieved by the entry of the Creator into humanity, the mysteries of his human life and the communication of his merits to the human race?

I believe that opening up the possibility of believing in the existence of other intelligent beings in the cosmos outside man's, and not seeing in him any incompatibility with Catholic doctrine, as Father Funes says, is explained only by theological relativism and religious environment.

Such a theory is born and inevitably leads to relativism, because it amounts, in little or in all, to the following: these animals, if they exist, are saved equally; they can be Catholics without Christ and without the Church; believe in whatever they want, are equally oriented to Christ, or to God, or whatever, in a way not unlike - say - today - Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists ... and even atheists!

Translated from the portuguese by myself, original link: https://www.fsspx.com.br/deus-e-a-existencia-de-seres-extraterrestres/

Weird things of the Syrian Civil War

When you start to follow closely the development of the so-called "Syrian civil war" you start to notice some weird things. Today, in this little text, i will talk about one thing i am noticing since the breaking of Deir Ezzor Siege and the following Kurd offensive against ISIS.
The US-backed SDF launched an offensive against IS territory on Syria on the wake of the SAA offensive, advancing without much IS resistance and without much fight over a good portion of terrain, at the same time, the SAA had to fight a bloody long battle to reach Deir-Ezzor and to cross the Euphrates river, and now is facing several IS counter offensives on the whole front-line, while the SDF rests without real fighting going for them, why?
And here is the interesting point, why the SDF dont suffer the same big IS counteroffesives the SAA suffers, is it because SAA hold land west of the Euphrates? maybe, but the SDF is holding nice oil wells and is menacing some more, and might push IS out of Syria, so surely it's a danger also, so it is a curious thing of why IS dont Really act against the Kurds.
This peculiar situation show us that there is some dark agreements behind the scenes, IS is not attacking the SDF probably by globalist orders, so it can help form a Kurdistan, which will just be a way to weaken the nations on the region and give space to more USA bases on the middle east, and of course, more Oil.
The only good outcome of this war is a Syrian Goverment victory, which will ensure the Christians in Syria safety and destroy the plans of the globalists in the area.